https://www.alpharomeo15.org/ Tue, 28 Apr 2026 21:55:03 +0000 MyBB https://www.alpharomeo15.org/Thread-Franklin-Armory-Antithesis-SBR-without-NFA-regulations Wed, 17 Sep 2025 21:43:30 +0000 MontanaLon]]> https://www.alpharomeo15.org/Thread-Franklin-Armory-Antithesis-SBR-without-NFA-regulations
"a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed cartridge to fire only a single projectile through a rifled bore for each single pull of the trigger, and shall include any such weapon which may be readily restored to fire a fixed cartridge."

Franklin filed a lawsuit against ATF when they ruled the product they had come up with was a "rifle" and since the barrel was shorter than 16" it was a short barrel rifle. The first case upheld the ATF ruling but the appeal the judge ruled against ATF which lead to a settlement. So, why is it not a rifle? Because it wasn't designed to fire a single projectile only, it is designed to fire multiple projectiles. The multiple projectiles are in the form of a "bullet" which is made of plastic and houses several smaller projectiles. When it goes through the barrel, the plastic breaks open and releases the multiple projectiles. 

They have done the same thing with "shotgun" because the definition of a shotgun "a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed shotgun shell to fire through a smooth bore either a number of projectiles (ball shot) or a single projectile for each pull of the trigger, and shall include any such weapon which may be readily restored to fire a fixed shotgun shell."

A shotgun has to have a smooth bore. They added straight rifling, it is no longer a shotgun and since it was meant to fire more than a single projectile with each shot, it can't be a rifle either.
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https://franklinarmory.com/shop/antithesis/

I have to admit, holding ATF to the plain language meaning of their laws is working out pretty well. But if the democrats ever get control they will change both the NFA and GCA to outlaw this.]]>
"a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed cartridge to fire only a single projectile through a rifled bore for each single pull of the trigger, and shall include any such weapon which may be readily restored to fire a fixed cartridge."

Franklin filed a lawsuit against ATF when they ruled the product they had come up with was a "rifle" and since the barrel was shorter than 16" it was a short barrel rifle. The first case upheld the ATF ruling but the appeal the judge ruled against ATF which lead to a settlement. So, why is it not a rifle? Because it wasn't designed to fire a single projectile only, it is designed to fire multiple projectiles. The multiple projectiles are in the form of a "bullet" which is made of plastic and houses several smaller projectiles. When it goes through the barrel, the plastic breaks open and releases the multiple projectiles. 

They have done the same thing with "shotgun" because the definition of a shotgun "a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of the explosive in a fixed shotgun shell to fire through a smooth bore either a number of projectiles (ball shot) or a single projectile for each pull of the trigger, and shall include any such weapon which may be readily restored to fire a fixed shotgun shell."

A shotgun has to have a smooth bore. They added straight rifling, it is no longer a shotgun and since it was meant to fire more than a single projectile with each shot, it can't be a rifle either.
c


https://franklinarmory.com/shop/antithesis/

I have to admit, holding ATF to the plain language meaning of their laws is working out pretty well. But if the democrats ever get control they will change both the NFA and GCA to outlaw this.]]> https://www.alpharomeo15.org/Thread-Let-s-build-an-AR15 Thu, 19 Dec 2024 01:58:08 +0000 The Shooters Apprentice]]> https://www.alpharomeo15.org/Thread-Let-s-build-an-AR15
Anyway. I still have a bunch of grendel stuff. Bullets, dies, brass, ammo, magazines, the works, and I tell Tom fairly often that I want to put togther another one and I think the time has come.

I'm not really all schooled up on ARs. I built the 80% I have with the guidance of a friend with a borrowed jig and don't really want to go through the work again, and I've gotten to where I don't really like swapping uppers around and just want to have complete rifles.

I'm thinking I want a 18" barreled rifle. maybe a 20, but I want something that easy to pack, but also pretty accurate for longer shots out to maybe 600 yards.

But lets start with the lower. I'm not on a super tight budget with this, but I also don't have unlimited funds. I want the best I can get for my money without over spending.

Are lowers pretty generic to where I can get away with a cheaper one, or do I need to be looking at spending more money on a lower?]]>
Anyway. I still have a bunch of grendel stuff. Bullets, dies, brass, ammo, magazines, the works, and I tell Tom fairly often that I want to put togther another one and I think the time has come.

I'm not really all schooled up on ARs. I built the 80% I have with the guidance of a friend with a borrowed jig and don't really want to go through the work again, and I've gotten to where I don't really like swapping uppers around and just want to have complete rifles.

I'm thinking I want a 18" barreled rifle. maybe a 20, but I want something that easy to pack, but also pretty accurate for longer shots out to maybe 600 yards.

But lets start with the lower. I'm not on a super tight budget with this, but I also don't have unlimited funds. I want the best I can get for my money without over spending.

Are lowers pretty generic to where I can get away with a cheaper one, or do I need to be looking at spending more money on a lower?]]> https://www.alpharomeo15.org/Thread-Why-I-learned-to-like-the-AR-15 Thu, 22 Feb 2024 07:53:43 +0000 tommag]]> https://www.alpharomeo15.org/Thread-Why-I-learned-to-like-the-AR-15 I didn't expect much but I carefully prepped 20 brass (my usual, deburr the flash hole/turn the necks/uniform the pockets, etc.) I selected a mid level load of 4895 under some berger 52gr hps. I know it had a fast enough twist to stabilize heavier bullets, but I went with my tried and true favorite bullet.
Now with a non-floated pencil thin bbl, I sat down at the bench.
Holy Moly! With my first load I was shooting .4 groups! Thus began my love affair with the platform. I had no idea a semi auto rifle could be so accurate. That carbine is long gone, but I set out to see what I could do with ar15s. I learned about thermo-fitting, free floating handguards, etc. and was on my way.
I found the journey quite satisfying. It culminated in a bartlein heavy barrel chambered in 6.5 Grendel thermofitted to a bcm upper and a timney trigger group. That stupid thing almost had no preferences for bullets as long as they were in range of 95 to 120 grains. It shot one ragged hole groups with the Hornady 100gr bullets, which have been replaced by a polymer tipped bullet. Besides the little accurizing steps in putting it together, I'm convinced the case design itself has something to do with it. I know the 220 Russian variants in .22 and 6mm has taken a lot of championships in the bench rest world.
Anyway, I've only competed against myself, but I found it satisfying. It's not applicable to the tactical world but that wasn't my goal. In my mind Townsend Whelen said it best. "Only accurate rifles are interesting."]]> I didn't expect much but I carefully prepped 20 brass (my usual, deburr the flash hole/turn the necks/uniform the pockets, etc.) I selected a mid level load of 4895 under some berger 52gr hps. I know it had a fast enough twist to stabilize heavier bullets, but I went with my tried and true favorite bullet.
Now with a non-floated pencil thin bbl, I sat down at the bench.
Holy Moly! With my first load I was shooting .4 groups! Thus began my love affair with the platform. I had no idea a semi auto rifle could be so accurate. That carbine is long gone, but I set out to see what I could do with ar15s. I learned about thermo-fitting, free floating handguards, etc. and was on my way.
I found the journey quite satisfying. It culminated in a bartlein heavy barrel chambered in 6.5 Grendel thermofitted to a bcm upper and a timney trigger group. That stupid thing almost had no preferences for bullets as long as they were in range of 95 to 120 grains. It shot one ragged hole groups with the Hornady 100gr bullets, which have been replaced by a polymer tipped bullet. Besides the little accurizing steps in putting it together, I'm convinced the case design itself has something to do with it. I know the 220 Russian variants in .22 and 6mm has taken a lot of championships in the bench rest world.
Anyway, I've only competed against myself, but I found it satisfying. It's not applicable to the tactical world but that wasn't my goal. In my mind Townsend Whelen said it best. "Only accurate rifles are interesting."]]> https://www.alpharomeo15.org/Thread-AR-15-bolt-cutaway-video Wed, 10 Jan 2024 05:41:49 +0000 smb5769]]> https://www.alpharomeo15.org/Thread-AR-15-bolt-cutaway-video https://youtu.be/Uv6a1hs9U5o?si=ZmvEv1pG_9Kf6Ni6]]> https://youtu.be/Uv6a1hs9U5o?si=ZmvEv1pG_9Kf6Ni6]]> https://www.alpharomeo15.org/Thread-Got-a-Liberty-Safe Thu, 07 Sep 2023 02:56:13 +0000 olfart]]> https://www.alpharomeo15.org/Thread-Got-a-Liberty-Safe
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