Charlie Kirk shot in Utah

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(09-18-2025, 08:27 PM)MontanaLon Wrote:
(09-18-2025, 08:12 PM)specops56 Wrote: So, while trying to escape he took the time to break down the rifle and then, while still trying to escape, took more time to put it back together, wrap it up and leave it in the woods for the cops to find?

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Terry
Yeah, something isn't kosher. And realistically, we will never know if the bullet that hit Charlie was fired by that gun. It didn't stay in his body and it looked like everything behind him was concrete so splat goes the bullet. But I doubt this investigation will be a coverup.

It already is. There’s a video showing a muzzle flash from an open window in another building next to the one the “shooter” was on at the exact time Kirk was hit. I’ve seen the video and there’s no mistaking it’s a muzzle flash. That window was on a straight trajectory to Kirk. The “shooters” rifle is a 30-06. The noise from that should have had everyone ducking and running but they didn’t. A 30-06 that can bring down a deer at distance should have just about blown his head off .
They say he had the rifle hidden in his backpack. The BP he was wearing in the video showing him walking into the place was not big enough to hide it even broken down. Also, if that was true, putting it back together would have affected his scope zero. There are many more unexplained things that put the lie to the official story. JFK anyone?!

Terry
(09-19-2025, 09:25 AM)specops56 Wrote: It already is. There’s a video showing a muzzle flash from an open window in another building next to the one the “shooter” was on at the exact time Kirk was hit. I’ve seen the video and there’s no mistaking it’s a muzzle flash. That window was on a straight trajectory to Kirk. The “shooters” rifle is a 30-06. The noise from that should have had everyone ducking and running but they didn’t. A 30-06 that can bring down a deer at distance should have just about blown his head off .
They say he had the rifle hidden in his backpack. The BP he was wearing in the video showing him walking into the place was not big enough to hide it even broken down. Also, if that was true, putting it back together would have affected his scope zero. There are many more unexplained things that put the lie to the official story. JFK anyone?!

Terry

I just watched a video and he was clearly shot from behind. I've changed my mind. I'd like to hear from people who contacted the FBI that they had video of the incident. Did they sign NDA's after contacting FBI? Was the video removed from their phones? If people are still in possession of the video they took on a cell phone, it wouldn't be rocket science to map out where they were standing and then use the audio as a shot spotter. Cell phone clocks are synchronized to either a cell signal from the ground or to GPS signals from space so the time stamps would play a small part. But the video portion could also be used to match up the time. Overlay 3 videos sound and you can not just get an idea where the shot came from, you can get a really accurate location of where the shot came from. Syncing the video from the phones would be easy, just a frame by frame comparison. Sound on cell phone video is typically sampled at 44khertz so penty of accuracy there. Video is at 30 frames per second, which would be the weak link. According to my calculations 1/30 of a second error in sync would result in an error of about 35 feet. But that would still give a good idea where the shot came from.
"The FBI's case is FULL of loopholes" Ex-Prosecutor says about Charlie Kirk's murder



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Terry
Occam's razor
(09-20-2025, 11:16 AM)Rampy Wrote: Occam's razor

Occam never investigated a political assassination.

Terry
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(09-20-2025, 04:21 PM)specops56 Wrote:
(09-20-2025, 11:16 AM)Rampy Wrote: Occam's razor

Occam never investigated a political assassination.

Terry


Does not mean it’s wrong
From Turning Point USA Spokesman Andrew Kolvet:

"I want to address some of the discussion about the lack of an exit wound with Charlie.

I’m usually not interested in delving into most of this kind of online chatter, and I apologize this is somewhat graphic, but in this case, the fact that there wasn’t an exit wound is probably another miracle, and I want people to know.

I just spoke with the surgeon who worked on Charlie in the hospital…

He said the bullet “absolutely should have gone through, which is very very normal for a high powered, high velocity round. I’ve seen wounds from this caliber many times and they always just go through everything. This would have taken a moose or two down, an elk, etc.”

But it didn’t go through. Charlie’s body stopped it.

I mentioned to his doctor that there were dozens of staff, students, and special guests standing directly behind Charlie on the other side of the tent, and he replied:

“It was an absolute miracle that someone else didn’t get killed.”

“His bone was so healthy and the density was so so impressive that he’s like the man of steel. It should have just gone through and through. It likely would have killed those standing behind him too.”

In the end, the coroner did find the bullet just beneath the skin.

Even in death, Charlie managed to save the lives of those around him.

Remarkable. Miraculous."
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(09-20-2025, 10:35 PM)Rampy Wrote:
(09-20-2025, 04:21 PM)specops56 Wrote:
(09-20-2025, 11:16 AM)Rampy Wrote: Occam's razor

Occam never investigated a political assassination.

Terry


Does not mean it’s wrong

Does not mean it's always right either. According to Occam, JFK was killed by a guy in an elevated position with a WW2 surplus Carcano while in a moving vehicle, from behind while the kill shot obviously came from the front.

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Terry
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Got to love the conspiracy theories her from people watching a video or videos while totally ignoring facts in favor of fedlings
Got to love the people who ignore the all the evidence that doesn't fit the official story because we all know the government, especially the FBI, have never lied to us or covered up anything before. And Epstein killed himself and his files don't exist.

Terry



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