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Boy is this off topic, but I felt a need to share it.
I was raised a Catholic but my adolescent "intellectual self" rejected the teachings of the Bible as bogus. Eventually I came to realize that our world functioned way too symbiotically to be just happenstance and the Darwinest approach required much more blind faith than the idea of God making every thing mesh and working together.
Anyway, I'm pretty much a numbers and mechanical guy and the bible makes more sense than anything else.
It still seems strange that we are forgiven of all our sins through Christ's crucification as long as we make a good honest effort to repent , but I'll take it!
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(01-04-2025, 10:26 PM)tommag Wrote: It still seems strange that we are forgiven of all our sins through Christ's crucification as long as we make a good honest effort to repent , but I'll take it!
Good plan!
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(01-04-2025, 10:26 PM)tommag Wrote: It still seems strange that we are forgiven of all our sins through Christ's crucification as long as we make a good honest effort to repent , but I'll take it!
Good plan!
The harder part is learning to forgive yourself after God has forgiven you.
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(01-05-2025, 12:10 AM)olfart Wrote: (01-04-2025, 10:26 PM)tommag Wrote: It still seems strange that we are forgiven of all our sins through Christ's crucification as long as we make a good honest effort to repent , but I'll take it!
Good plan!
The harder part is learning to forgive yourself after God has forgiven you. Yep, I'm truly not worthy, but none of us are. We're all saved through God's grace!
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Friend, when you figure it out, let me know. There’s nothing lovable or redeemable about me- but apparently it happened.
When I was a chemist (before turning social studies teacher) I pretty much idolized a brilliant scientist named A.E. Wilder-Smith. I heard him lecture on some of his books- his theories and ideas (he’s a published author, if you’re interested) and he referenced John 8:32 “the truth will set you free.” His point was; there’s no dichotomy between science and biblical truth. If you’re not running around looking for answers that are already known, you’re free to look for answers to other questions. The particular books of his he was speaking about were, “The Creation of Life” and “Man’s Origin Man’s Destiny”. Neither is an easy read, but pretty interesting.
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(01-04-2025, 10:26 PM)tommag Wrote: Boy is this off topic, but I felt a need to share it.
I was raised a Catholic but my adolescent "intellectual self" rejected the teachings of the Bible as bogus. Eventually I came to realize that our world functioned way too symbiotically to be just happenstance and the Darwinest approach required much more blind faith than the idea of God making every thing mesh and working together.
Anyway, I'm pretty much a numbers and mechanical guy and the bible makes more sense than anything else.
It still seems strange that we are forgiven of all our sins through Christ's crucification as long as we make a good honest effort to repent , but I'll take it!
I was not Catholic but that's pretty much how I solidified my faith. There's no way this world could be an accident. The things that cinched it was the intricate and logical way the human body works, all the prophecies have come true or in the process of coming true and many events that happened to me throughout my life at just the right time over decades and were connected that could not have been anything but GOD's hand at work.
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(01-05-2025, 08:44 AM)specops56 Wrote: (01-04-2025, 10:26 PM)tommag Wrote: Boy is this off topic, but I felt a need to share it.
I was raised a Catholic but my adolescent "intellectual self" rejected the teachings of the Bible as bogus. Eventually I came to realize that our world functioned way too symbiotically to be just happenstance and the Darwinest approach required much more blind faith than the idea of God making every thing mesh and working together.
Anyway, I'm pretty much a numbers and mechanical guy and the bible makes more sense than anything else.
It still seems strange that we are forgiven of all our sins through Christ's crucification as long as we make a good honest effort to repent , but I'll take it!
I was not Catholic but that's pretty much how I solidified my faith. There's no way this world could be an accident. The things that cinched it was the intricate and logical way the human body works, all the prophecies have come true or in the process of coming true and many events that happened to me throughout my life at just the right time over decades and were connected that could not have been anything but GOD's hand at work.
Terry Oh boy, the prophecies! There are things written back then that were truly unimaginable at the time such as man going to and fro about the earth and the fire from the sky that melts the flesh from the body (nuclear bombs comes to mind). We may not see Christ's return in our lifetime but all the pieces are in place. We are told that we won't know the hour and the day, but we should be watchful for the signs. He appears to be coming soon.
There are different schools of thought regarding whether we'll be raptured before or after the great tribulation but as near as I can tell, if we're alive we'll have to endure the miseries before we're lifted up to join Jesus. No matter which way it happens the unpleasantness of the tribulation will be akin to a mosquito bite when we get to heaven.
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(01-05-2025, 09:32 AM)tommag Wrote: (01-05-2025, 08:44 AM)specops56 Wrote: (01-04-2025, 10:26 PM)tommag Wrote: Boy is this off topic, but I felt a need to share it.
I was raised a Catholic but my adolescent "intellectual self" rejected the teachings of the Bible as bogus. Eventually I came to realize that our world functioned way too symbiotically to be just happenstance and the Darwinest approach required much more blind faith than the idea of God making every thing mesh and working together.
Anyway, I'm pretty much a numbers and mechanical guy and the bible makes more sense than anything else.
It still seems strange that we are forgiven of all our sins through Christ's crucification as long as we make a good honest effort to repent , but I'll take it!
I was not Catholic but that's pretty much how I solidified my faith. There's no way this world could be an accident. The things that cinched it was the intricate and logical way the human body works, all the prophecies have come true or in the process of coming true and many events that happened to me throughout my life at just the right time over decades and were connected that could not have been anything but GOD's hand at work.
Terry Oh boy, the prophecies! There are things written back then that were truly unimaginable at the time such as man going to and fro about the earth and the fire from the sky that melts the flesh from the body (nuclear bombs comes to mind). We may not see Christ's return in our lifetime but all the pieces are in place. We are told that we won't know the hour and the day, but we should be watchful for the signs. He appears to be coming soon.
There are different schools of thought regarding whether we'll be raptured before or after the great tribulation but as near as I can tell, if we're alive we'll have to endure the miseries before we're lifted up to join Jesus. No matter which way it happens the unpleasantness of the tribulation will be akin to a mosquito bite when we get to heaven.
The “rapture” doesn’t happen until Christ returns after the tribulation at Armageddon.
I recommend you watch this video. I’ve been following them for years and they are the most biblically accurate teachers of the bible you will find. For the “rapture” to occur before the tribulation, that would be the 2nd coming of Christ and when he returns for the battle of armageddon, that would be a 3rd coming and there ain’t no mention of a 3rd coming of Christ in the Bible.
The Rapture: 7 Things that MUST Happen FIRST
Terry
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