5 Year Law Enforcement Report on Red Dots on Handguns

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(02-01-2025, 06:19 PM)hkriflenut_aka_sasquatch Wrote:
(01-29-2025, 11:31 PM)Rampy Wrote:
(01-29-2025, 02:33 PM)hkriflenut_aka_sasquatch Wrote: *snip*


Never heard of the Echelon before, off to google


As far as a striker gun goes, its above average based on my limited experience with it so far. The pros it has going for it:

Better ergonomics than Glock
Better factory grip texture than most
Built in gas pedals, even if they're barely there
Terrific slide cuts that are super grippy and natural, without being over-done like the PDP or original APX. I Especially like how the slide tapers in slightly before the chamber, so if you're doing an overhand rack from the front of the gun (like when you're unloading the gun or doing a chamber check before going on duty) its just easy.
Mags load fairly easy to capacity without the need to use a LULA or other loader tool
Good factory irons that cowitness with most optics - my sample came with a tritium insert on the front sight which is OK, not a necessity for me.
Optics mounting system that doesn't require plates, except for ACRO footprint sights
Trigger on my sample is very much like my Glock 34 with Apex trigger installed. Its about 4.5lbs with a crisp break. Its a factory flat faced trigger. Its not quite as nice as a factory Walther PDP trigger, but its head and shoulders better than any factory Glock trigger. 

Its no Staccato, but I'm not rolling in Staccato money right now.

I'd made the jump back to a Beretta for my armed security monkey work, but decided to get the Echelon to use going through the police academy (its bring your own gun) since the lead firearms instructor said we can use our dots after he confirms we can shoot with irons. Finding sights I like that would let me mount a dot on the Beretta that I like is proving to be challenging. Basically the only tall sights I've found are Beretta factory 3 dot irons, which require being milled to work with a D-Lah Designs plate (the best option right now for the modern 92's aside from having Langdon mill your slide)

Sounds very intriguing, nobody in town has one in stock & I even got a WTF look from one gun counter guy 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Will see if any gunshop we frequent in Colorado has one……

what’s up with this gas pedal fad?? Seeing all kinds of people looking for CCW holster that hit them, some are collapsible so they “fit” your current holster 

I asked and was told they are all the rage in shooting circles and help you shoot faster and they look good on the gram 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

staccato has 2 new pistols for law enforcement that combined striker fired and single action, low mounted red dot, no plate needed for dot  & accept Glock magazines directed at departments (apparently this is a huge thing) that mandate all officers have pistols that accept Glock magazines & somewhere between 75-78% of all law enforcement departments use Glock pistols….

They also revamped the “hero” program giving LEO’s $800 off the new pistols & more (have not looked into it) 

I really like Beretta’s but the lack of a high quality dot mounting solution is problematic 

Could you have one milled for a specific dot footprint? My 1st dot had to have the G19 slide milled for the RMR as no other option existed

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RE: 5 Year Law Enforcement Report on Red Dots on Handguns - by Rampy - 02-01-2025, 06:43 PM



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